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  Aircraft by type

Northrop T-38

Losses and Ejections

   
   
Date Air Force A'cft Unit / Serial based crashed crew photo seat
   
1st T-38 crash  
Monday 19th February 1962
USAF
T-38A-35 60-0587 Webb AFB TX Crashed near Big Spring in West Texas      
Student Pilot 2nd Lt. Jean F. Campbell
23
killed
Instructor Pilot 1st Lt. William E. Rees
25
injured
 
   
2nd July 1962
19:07 local

USAF
T-38A-40 61-0839 Webb AFB TX Single engine landing with landing gear problems 1 mile short of runway,      
student pilot ok    
   
18th July 1962
USAF
T-38A-35 60-0563 Randolph AFB TX        
     
   
5th February 1963
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0922 Williams AFB AZ        
     
   
13th August 1963
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0939 Williams AFB AZ        
     
   
28th August 1963
USAF
T-38A-35 60-0568 Randolph AFB TX        
     
   
13th November 1963
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3635 Reese AFB TX        
     
   
Wednesday 12th February 1964
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0873 Webb AFB TX        
     
   
Thursday 27th February 1964
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0821 Webb AFB TX        
     
   
Monday 1st June 1964
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0943 Williams AFB AZ        
     
   
Sunday 7th June 1964
13:00

USAF
T-38A-40 61-0811 3560th Pilot Training Wing
Webb AFB TX
Took off from Myrtle Beach AFB. Crashed one miles south of US 501 and Myrtle Beach and Conway      
Lt. David H. Leveritt
29
Decatur, Ga
killed
IP
Captain Elbert C. Huffines Jr.,
Fairmont, NC
killed
 
   
Saturday 10th October 1964
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3684 Reese AFB TX 1st T-38 Midair (62-3687)      
     
Saturday 10th October 1964
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3687 Reese AFB TX 1st T-38 Midair (62-3684)      
     
   
Friday 30th October 1964
USAF
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8188 Ellington AFB Bird Strike (snowgoose) while landing at Ellington Air Force Base. Canopy shattered Theodore C. Freeman
ejected at very low level, chute not enough time to deploy and was killed
Northrop
   
10th February 1965
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3676 Reese AFB TX        
     
   
7th May 1965
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0871 Webb AFB TX Duluth MN      
     
   
14th May 1965
USAF
T-38A-45
Talon
10612 (62-3612) USAF pilot training at Williams AFB Arizona On 7th solo flight the landing gear could not be
raised. The wing commander ordered
a controlled bailout.
     

Martin Deuringer  10000ft 250kts heading SE 10NM from Williams Tacan

[see also German F-104G 30th April 1969]

not occupied Northrop
   
8th June 1965
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3707 Vance AFB OK        
     
   
30th June 1965
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3609 Williams AFB AZ        
     
   
Thursday 26th August 1965
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8244

Laughlin AFB TX

3 acft Midair (64-13177 & 64-13226) near Ozona,  Mexican Border. Crashed in rocky area of southwest Texas      
     
Thursday 26th August 1965
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13177 Laughlin AFB TX 3 acft Midair (63-8244 & 64-13226 near Ozona,  Mexican Border. Crashed in rocky area of southwest Texas)      
     
Thursday 26th August 1965
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13226 Laughlin AFB TX 3 acft Midair (63-8244 & 64-13177) near Ozona,  Mexican Border. Crashed in rocky area of southwest Texas      
     
   
 
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8165 Moody AFB GA England AFB LA      
     
   
15th December 1965
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8199 Moody AFB GA Tyndall AFB FL      
     
   
12th January 1966
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0934 Williams AFB AZ Midair with 64-13291      
     
12th January 1966
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13291 Williams AFB AZ Midair with 61-0934      
     
   
19th February 1966
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3647 Reese AFB TX Solo      

??
killed

   
   
28th February 1966
NASA
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8181
N901NA
NASA
Johnson Lambert Field, St. Louis, Missouri.

McDonnell Aircraft Corporation's plant, St. Louis, Missouri

Aircraft approached too low and crashed into a roof of a building at McDonnell Aircraft Corporation's plant, St. Louis, Missouri no ejections
Elliot McKay See Jr. killed Charles Bassett II killed
   
17th May 1966
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0932 Williams AFB AZ        
     
17th May 1966
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8213 Moody AFB GA Robbins AFB GA      
     
   
7th June 1966
USAF
T-38A-35 60-0584 Randolph AFB TX        
     
   
25th June 1966
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10334 Laredo AFB TX Davis Monthan AFB (Williams AFB?)      
     
   
4th November 1966
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3658 Reese AFB TX Birdstrike Hill AFB UT      
     
   
7th November 1966
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3664 Reese AFB TX        
     
   
18th November 1966
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10410 Laredo AFB TX        
     
Thursday 16th February 1967
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10475 Craig AFB AL Midair with 66-8349. Crashed about 15 miles south of Craig AFB      
IP
??
ejected
Student Pilot
??
ejected
 
Thursday 16th February 1967
USAF
T-38A-65 66-8349 Craig AFB AL Midair with 65-10475. Crashed about 15 miles south of Craig AFB      
IP
??
ejected
Student Pilot
??
ejected
 
 
Who was in which aircraft ?

crew 1 - IP Captain Charles F. Hayes, Wellstone, Oklahoma & 2nd Lt. Barry W. Johnson, Maitland, Florida

crew 2 - ??

 

18th April 1967
USAF
T-38A-40 Talon 61-0928 Williams Air Force Base, Arizona 3rd jet in 4 ship -- canopy exploded
Devils Canyon, AZ
    Northrop
Front: instructor pilot Major Harry J. Peterson ejected Rear: Pilot Major Norman D. Peters ejected Northrop
   
10th May 1967
USAF
T-38A-65 66-8354 Houston Space Center        
 C. Clifton Williams
killed
   
   
Friday 12th May 1967
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10465 Craig AFB, Selma Alabama Pilot on his first solo flight. Crashed into a wooded area near Selma, Alabama      
2nd Lt. John David Roberts
23
Montgomery
killed
not occupied Northrop
   
28th May 1967
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8186 Moody AFB GA        
     
   
22nd June 1967
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0885 Williams AFB AZ        
     
22nd June 1967
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3735 Vance AFB OK        
     
   
31st July 1967
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8122 Vance AFB OK        
     
1st August 1967
USAF
T-38A
Talon
    solo flight crashed 31 miles south of Sheppard. One killed    
1967 Aug 01 XGermany T-38A-65 66-8370 GAF Sheppard AFB TX   1st GAF jet crash    
  Air Force Plane Crash Kills Two in Oklahoma

Aug 2, 1967
... Jordan Jr 24 of North Little Rock Ark the student pilot The plane was a two seat T38 on a routine training flight from Vance air force base Enid Okla.

 

17th August 1967
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4336 Craig AFB AL        
     
6th September 1967
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3670 Reese AFB TX Crashed during FCF      
     
Thursday 5th October 1967
14:00

USAF
T-38 Talon     Mechanical failure. Crashed into a hillside  near Tallahassee, Florida on flight from Cape Kennedy to Houston Manned Space Centre via Mobile, Alabama Major Clifton C. Williams Jr.
[USMC]
killed

no ejection

 
Monday 30th October 1967
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13218 Laughlin AFB TX Crashed near Del Rio      
???
ejected
???
ejected
 
24th November 1967
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3694 Reese AFB TX        
     
29th January 1968
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13248 Laredo AFB TX        
     
7th March 1968
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10360 Laredo AFB TX        
     
12th March 1968
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10446 Craig AFB AL        
     
9th April 1968
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4377 Randolph AFB TX        
     
22nd August 1968
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3613 Williams AFB AZ        
     
11th September 1968
USAF
T-38A-65
Talon
66-8371 GAF Sheppard AFB TX solo flight crashed near Nocona, Tex pilot suffered minor injuries    
30th September 1968
USAF
T-38A-65
Talon
66-8376 GAF Sheppard AFB TX solo flight crashed in Archer City, Tex.      
pilot suffered minor injuries    
7th October 1968
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0906 Williams AFB AZ        
     
7th November 1968
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10316 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
13th January 1969
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8114 Vance AFB OK        
     
3rd May 1969
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14839 Laredo AFB TX single engine heavyweight at aux field      
Bob Ladley    
13th May 1969
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4371 Randolph AFB TX        
     
7th July 1969
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3731 Vance AFB OK        
     
17th July 1969
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10323 Vance AFB OK McConnell AFB KS      
     
12th August 1969
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10423 Craig AFB AL        
     
13th August 1969
USAF
T-38A-65 66-8396 Randolph AFB TX        
     
9th December 1969
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8212 Moody AFB GA Jacksonville FL -- to SAAMA 23 Mar 70      
     
31st January 1970
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13184 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
9th March 1970
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8223 Moody AFB GA        
     
20th April 1970
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3710 Vance AFB OK        
     
27th May 1970
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8140 Moody AFB GA        
     
11th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8115 Columbus AFB MS        
     
12th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13229 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
14th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8245 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
25th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-35 60-0596 Tyndall AFB FL        
     
25th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4353 Randolph AFB TX        
     
27th August 1970
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4322 Craig AFB AL        
     
4th September 1970
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8134 AFSC
Edwards AFB CA
crashed at Palmdale Wake turbulence from C-141 on cross runway      
Maj James Martin Taylor, TPS IP (former MOL astronaut)    
8th September 1970
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0805 Webb AFB TX Midair with 64-13303      
     
8th September 1970
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13303 Webb AFB TX Midair with 61-0805      
     
1st October 1970
USAF
T-38A-30 60-0560 Tyndall AFB FL        
     
3rd December 1970
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10462 Craig AFB AL Rebuilt  Thornton Corp      
     
11th December 1970
CHECK DATE

USAF
     El Paso Tex International Airport. Both crew astronauts Canopy problems. Landed back at Houston      
     
14th December 1970
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13166 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
16th December 1970
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0901 Williams AFB AZ        
     
3rd February 1971
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0881 Williams AFB AZ        
     
Wednesday 5th May 1971
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8170 Laughlin AFB
Del Rio Texas
Crashed during night practice landings      
Student
2nd Lt. Robert A. Backemeyer
Crown Point, Indiana
Injured
IP
Captain Robert K. Seabury
RD 1
West Newton
killed
 
27th June 1971
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3726 Vance AFB Oklahoma Crashed into the ocean shortly after takeoff near Point Mugu NAS      
??
killed
??
killed
 
26th July 1971
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0921 Williams AFB AZ solo flight      
2LT William J. Stone
23
San Jose, CA
killed
   
30th July 1971
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0884 Williams AFB AZ        
     
30 July 1971
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3622 Williams AFB AZ        
     
?? ?? 1972
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8194 Navy Test Pilot School B/N         
     
20th January 1972
15:23

NASA
T-38A-80 69-7088 NASA
Houston Space Center
Test flight of an inertial landing system for the evolving Space Shuttle Program. Crashed on Matagorda Island, Texas when flew through fog bank moving in from Gulf of Mexico    
 Stuart M. Present
killed
Mark Conover Heath Jr.
killed
 
NASA pilots were both civilians assigned to the Aircraft Operations Division of the Manned Spacecraft Center.  
Lunar Lander Training Vehicle Lost January 29, 1971 when Stuart M. Present ejected safely
1972 Jan 30 NASA T-38A-80 69-7088 Houston Space Center 2 Present and Heath, Matagorda TX in fog    
24th February 1972
USAF
T-38A-45 Talon 62-3682 Reese AFB TX        
2Lt Richard L. Thomas
killed
   
7th March 1972
USAF
T-38A-45 Talon 62-3700 Reese AFB TX Wind flipped aircraft on its back      
2Lt Reid J. Hall (SP)
killed
Capt James E. Alexander (IP)
flown to San Antonio but died
 
FEEDBACK

I can add a couple of items to your T-38 section.

I was a T-38 IP at Reese AFB 1972-75, and a student '71-'72.

On 7 March 1972, I was senior student spotter at mobile control when number two, of a two ship formation flight, crashed during a touch and go. Neither the IP nor student ejected (Alexander & Hall). Final approach was normal, but just after touchdown, the aircraft pitched up, then rolled to the left then right (Sabre-dance-like), and ended up inverted on the right side of the runway. Hall died immediately, and Alexander was flown to San Antonio, but died 16 June '72. An Airman's dorm at Reese was named for Alexander. He was an AF Academy 
grad, class of '68, and rumor was that he hoped to make the  Thunderbirds, and had a good chance. Accident report at URL:
http://www.texaswreckchasing.com/Military70.htm

Ironically, another Reese AFB IP who was within a class or two of me  did make it to the T-Birds; Pete Peterson. He died in the T-Bird line-abreast crash in 18 Jan 1982.

Only weeks before the Alexander and Hall crash, on 24 Feb '72, a solo "senior class" student pilot augered in (literally) in the final turn to the same runway, 35L. His name was Thomas.  A buddy and I were driving to Base for the "late shift" and saw the smoke, replying toeach other - "that's on the wrong side of the road for the firefighters to be practicing." Sure enough it was Thomas' crash smoke. Accident report at URL:http://www.texaswreckchasing.com/Military70.htm
One needs to understand how formation, overhead traffic patterns work to understand the following explanation. Thomas was solo, number four in a four ship formation flight (near the end of his UPT training - about to get his wings) - but got too close to number three after pitching out in the overhead pattern, apparently tried to get spacing while on inside downwind, got too slow, so when he started his final  turn - left wings level flight, he immediately entered a stall. The only way he could possibly have recovered was to roll wings level while going to full afterburner, releasing back pressure, trading altitude for airspeed. Instead, he went to afterburners and kept pulling back pressure, insuring his doom.

A year or few after I left Reese (therefore ~ 1975-79), I recall hearing of a two-ship, four crewmember, midair where there was at  east one fatality, one quadraplegic, and at least one survivor. Don't know details.

Two weeks after the Alexander & Hall crash, I placed my name by the first T-38 IP assignment slot available. We were young, and at least I thought - "I'm too good to let that happen to me." In hindsight, while I had some interesting experiences - with students in the front seat, and solos on the wing - and while I reacted well enough to survive - I was lucky.

Don Parks
in email 19th November 2008
[site additions made 20th November 2008]

21st March 1972
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8130 Vance AFB OK        
     
Wednesday 10th May 1972
20:45

USN / NASA ???
T-38A-80 Talon 69-7086 NASA
Houston Space Center
Confirm

Ellington Air Force Base
Lost over 2 miles east of   Bergstrom AFB just SE of Austin, TX en route from Atlanta to Ellington Capt. Charles Conrad Jr
(astronaut)
ejected
 
FEEDBACK

Capt. Charles Conrad ejection on 10 May 1972.
There's little info here, hopefully my small input added with someone else's may help.
Capt Conrad ran out of fuel in a T-38 at night over central Texas and headed toward the former Bergstrom AFB just SE of Austin, TX.  I was stationed there at the time as a medic.
He aimed the craft toward a rural area and ejected onto or next to the actual runway at Bergstrom, uninjured.
My understanding at that time was he was a part of NASA at the time flying from Houston to Ellington AFB or vice versa.
Hope this helps.

in email 29th March 2008

Wednesday 10th May 1972
USAF
T-38A-30 60-0559   aircraft repaired??      
     
13th July 1972
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8108 Columbus AFB MS        
     
13th July 1972
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8126 Columbus AFB MS        
     
19th July 1972
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13170 Craig AFB AL        
     
9th September 1972
USAF
T-38A-85 Talon 70-1956 Randolph Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas Crashed just after take off at. Rolled over and caught fire    
Lt. Gen. George B. Simler
killed
Capt. Gil. L. Gillespie
killed
 
FEEDBACK

I'm compiling a "Data Base" of T-38 pictures and Tail Numbers plus information on all T-38s ever built.

So far, I have over 3,000 T-38 photos of about 900 specific, different T-38s.

(Northrop built 1,189 of them, counting 2 prototypes, & NOT counting the 3rd prototype, that they purposely destroyed as a static test article).

Your web-sight includes a T-38 crash on 9 Sep 1972.  I have more information on that crash.

I was a T-38 instructor pilot at Williams AFB, Arizona at the time of the 9 Sep 1972, T-38 crash of General George Simler & instructor pilot Gil Gillespie.

The information on your web-sight is correct, but I have more to add.

 

The tail number of that T-38 was 70-1956.

 

That is very significant in the production run of Northrop T-38s.

T-38 70-1956 was delivered, brand new, from Palmdale, California earlier that year (1972). (It was only about 8 months old).

The significance is that, T-38 70-1956 was the last T-38 ever built.  


You can verify this through    jbaugher's web sight.

You can also cross-check this info by looking up USAF 70-1956, at the Scramble web site.

Generals do not fly very much.  They're busy doing other things.

But being the commander of ALL Air Training Command ("ATC", as it was called in 1972), General Simler, chose that T-38 (70-1956) as the one he would fly, when he did fly.

The flight was to be from Randolph AFB to Scott AFB in Illinois.  Scott AFB was the Headquarters of the USAF Military Airlift Command.

General Simler had recently been chosen to be the commander of the "Military Airlift Command" ("MAC").

Anyway, the main reason for this email is to confirm the significance of the actual T-38 that crashed.

It was the last T-38 ever built, and only about 8 months old.

Northrop Corporation used to publish a news magazine (Talon News), and earlier in 1972, they ran a big article, complete with photos, about the "Delivery Ceremony" of this very last T-38 built.  I have a copy of that specific "Talon News" edition.

I hope this helps your web sight.

Roger DuClos
Former USAF T-38 Instructor Pilot & now Retired Delta Airlines pilot

in email13th May 2008

27th November 1972
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10436 Craig AFB AL        
     
28th November 1972
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13260 Laughlin AFB TX        
2Lt Clark B. Barron
killed
   
5th January 1973
US Navy/NASA
T-38A Talon N907NA/907   damaged      
     
22nd January 1973
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10319 Moody AFB GA        
     
30th April 1973
USAF
8A-40T-3 61-0833 Webb AFB TX        
2Lt David W. Scott (SP)
killed
Capt Thomas D. Jones Jr (IP)
killed
 
15th May 1973
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3712 Vance AFB OK        
     
13th July 1973
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8171 Moody AFB GA Grandview NAS, rebuilt and flying as N638TC  Thornton Corp      
     
14th August 1973
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8178 Columbus AFB MS Barksdale AFB LA      
     
1st October 1973
USAF
T-38A-65
Talon
66-8363 GAF Sheppard AFB TX solo flight crashed one nautical mile north of Sheppard Pilot ejected   Northrop
14th January 1974

 USAF
T-38A-40 Talon   61-0846 12th FTW Randolph AFB

Webb AFB

Birdstrike. Crashed near Randolph AFB      
2Lt Allen H. Jackson (SP)
OK
Lt Col Walton F. Dater (IP)
killed
 
19th January 1974
RoCAF
T-38A-40 61-0893 Taiwan        
     
6th February 1974
10:00

NASA
T-38 Talon   Ellington Air Force Base CDT on an instrument flight rules ( IFR ) flight plan for Bergstrom.

Flight from landing mishap at Bergstrom Air Force Base near Austin,Texas.

Dr. Karl G. Henize
uninjured
 
?? ?? 1974
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8212 Navy Test Pilot School B/N         
     
25th April 1974
RoCAF
T-38A-40 61-0887 Taiwan        
     
2nd May 1974
USAF
German AF
??
T-38A-65 Talon 66-8351 80th FTW
GAF Sheppard AFB TX
crashed caught in prop wash of C-130 about two miles north of Tinker Air Force Base, Okla      
SP
2nd Lt. Reed E. St. Vincent, 23, of Pittsburgh
killed
IP
?? Kelley
killed
 
FEEDBACK  

I want to add some comments for your T-38 section.  The crash which occurred May 2, 1974 near Tinker AFB, Oklahoma actually killed both 
crew members.  The aircraft was on final approach to land when it was  caught in the prop wash of a C-130 which had landed shortly before 
the T-38.  The T-38 crew lost control and the aircraft rolled and  lost altitude.  The aircraft hit a residential street and then went 
up a driveway and into the garage of an unoccupied house.  The  aircraft struck a car in the garage, the car's gasoline caught fire which then ignited the fuel from the aircraft causing an explosion.  
Prior to the explosion one of the pilots ejection seat fired shooting him through the home, his body was found in a bedroom of the house  beneath a bed.  The plane missed an apartment complex by approximately 100 feet which would have probably resulted in civilian casualties.  Actual crash site was in Midwest City, Oklahoma on a street named Del Ray.  Most of this information came from fire fighters who were at the scene as told to me about 7 years after the crash and from my next door neighbor who witnessed the plane go down.  As a side note I was 14 at the time of the crash and lived 1/2 mile due West of the crash site.  I went to the scene and arrived as fire fighters were still attempting to extinguish the flames.  I can still remember hearing the explosion and stepping out of my house and 
seeing the smoke rising into the sky.   


Terry Hill
in email 1st August 2008
 

6th May 1974
USAF
T-38A Talon 66-4373 T.6004 12th FTW Randolph AFB, TX, USA        
ejected ejected  
23rd May 1974
USAF
T-38A-85 70-1572 Columbus AFB MS        
     
22nd July 1974
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8149 Williams AFB AZ  single engine heavy practice approach      
1st Lt Paul D. Ring IP    
18th September 1974
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8194 Moody AFB GA        
     
18th December 1974
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13294 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
24th March 1975
RoCAF
T-38A-40 61-0841   Mid-Air collision. Crashed, near Li Dao, Tai Tung      
     
24th March 1975
RoCAF
T-38A-40 61-0905        
     
24th March 1975
RoCAF
T-38 ??        
     
7th October 1975
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8183 Columbus AFB MS        
     
17th February 1976
USAF
T-38A Talon 63-8136
N.5483
71st FTW Richards-Gebaur AFB, MO. Crashed on approach on a flight from Vance Air Force Base, Enid. Okla hitting a house in Grandview killing the female civilian occupant      
SP
Lt. Michael Gerdes
killed
IP
Captain James A. Sigler
killed
 
Thursday 3rd May 1976
USAF
T-38A Talon   64th FWS
57th FWW

On temperoary assignment to Langley

Combat training mission. Crashed about 68 miles off coast of VA into the Atlantic Ocean      
Captain James V. Phillips
33
Odessa, Texas
assigned to 64th Fighter Weapons Squadron
killed
1st Lt. Neil G. Kacena
25
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
att to 71st Tactical fighter Squadron, Langley
rescued
[did he eject ??]
 
17th August 1976
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13205 Reese AFB TX Night solo landed short      
Lt. Taylor    
24th August 1976
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14835 Williams AFB AZ Davis-Monthan AFB      
     
20th October 1976
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10391 26 TFTS
Clark AB Philippines
       
     
5th November 1976
USAF
T-38A-70 Talon 67-14830
T.6025
12th FTW Crashed near Offutt AFB NE, USA 1lt Robert Garrett
??
   
14th December 1976
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3642 Reese AFB TX Routine 4 ship training mission Midair with 62-3655 near Enochs, Texas      
SP ejected
landed still in ejection seat
killed
IP 1st Lt. Robert L. Jones
ejected
severe injuries
 
14th December 1976
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3655 Reese AFB TX Routine 4 ship training mission Midair with 62-3642 near Enochs, Texas      
Captain James Crumley
ejected
1st Lt. Dennis E. Maple
ejec
 
23rd February 1977
USAF
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8217 38th FTW
also seen as
82nd  FTW
Williams AFB AZ
Crashed near Williams AFB, AZ, USA      
15th March 1977
USAF
T-38A-60 Talon 65-10318 12th FTW Randolph AFB, TX, USA        
killed killed  
Two pilots were killed in a T-38 crash on March 15, 1977.
Wednesday 30th March 1977
USAF
T-38   Osan AFB
Seoul, South Korea
Crashed into the Yellow Sea off Korea      
Captain Edwin H. Bodenheim II
27
Longview, Texas
missing
???
Ok
 
SEOUL An Air force flier is missing following the crush of his t-38 jet trainer into the Yellow Sea off Korea, a US military spokesman said today.
2nd May 1977
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8103 Randolph AFB TX        
     
21st July 1977
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0877 Webb AFB TX crash damaged before and crashed on FCF?      
     
Monday 25th July 1977
USAF
Northrop T-38A-75 Talon   Thunderbirds Crashed during manoeuvres at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming      
Capt. Charlie Carter  deliberately remained in aircraft to avoid crashing into crowd
killed
Staff Sgt Ted Foster
ejected
suffered injuries
 
FEEDBACK

Although it was 30+ years ago, and I heard this story from my great-uncle who was also Charlie's uncle (on the other side of the family), the story as I remembered it  … Charlie was the narrator and back-up pilot, so was not flying in the actual show.  Accompanying him in flying over a Stock Show/Rodeo was a media person.  They had some kind of trouble.  (I don't think I ever knew if it was engine, or what.) Charlie had the guy in the plane with him eject, and Charlie was able to get the plane past all the people on the ground, but crashed into a pen of livestock before he could eject.

The San Antonio Light of July 26, 1977: carried a report of the loss
part of which is printed below 

".   .   .   A Luling** man killed in a crash of a jet trainer belonging to Air Force's have given up his own life rather than allow the jet to crash into 3 clump of campers Capt Charlie Carter 33 of Luling was killed Monday in the crash of the plane on a rain-swept rodeo parking lot as the plane was attempting to land at a nearby airport. "
**(Luling, Texas is about 60 miles east of San Antonio.)
Full story can be found at
LINK

Lisa Bailey
in email 14th February 2008

1st August 1977
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8242 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
Thursday 5th January 1978
USAF
T-38A Talon 68-8174   Thunderbirds
#9
Crashed on the Nellis Air Force Base gunnery range about 35 miles northwest of Las Vegas, NV USA struck ground causing seat to fire      
Captain James McCoy
30
Lake City, SC
ejected as aircraft struck ground firing seat
no second occupant  
8th January 1978
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10415 Reese/Kelly/Randolph        
     
23rd January 1978
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3695 Reese AFB TX Solo crashed on final      
??
killed
   
13th June 1978
USAF
T-38A Talon 61-0889/11 NTPS
 
Crashed during flight from NAS Patuxent River MD USA      
Friday 7th July 1978
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10405 Reese AFB, Texas Crashed during a landing at Cannon Air Force Base, Clovis NM      
Captain Robert M. Haman 2nd Lt. Samuel L. Wade  
Believed not to have ejected
Friday 7th July 1978
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10443 26 TFTS
Clark AB Philippines
       
     
2nd August 1978
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10383 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
31st August 1978
USAF
T-38A-65 Talon 66-4364 ATC

80th Flying Training Wing
Sheppard Air Force base
Structural failure of the wing during aerobatic training mission      
Student pilot
ejected
seriously injured
Capt. Swanson
ejected at high speed
killed
 
FEEDBACK

".  .   .  It has been 27 years since I sat on an ejection seat, but I still consider my T-38 flying as one of my most enjoyable assignments.

 I was a T-38 Instructor Pilot at Sheppard AFB in the Fixed Wing Division of the 80 FTW at the time of this accident. This was a small unit and the fatal accident on 31 Aug 1978 made an indelible impression on us.

 This accident occurred on an aerobatic training mission. While entering a loop the aircraft experienced a structural failure of the wing. The left wing folded up over the fuselage causing the aircraft to enter an extreme roll. The instructor was Capt. Swanson, who ejected from the back seat at what the USAF estimated to be 550 kts. Swanson was killed due to the extreme forces caused by the high speed ejection. The student (can’t remember his name) ejected at a slower speed (under 500 kts) and was seriously injured. He was eventually medically retired from the USAF, having never regained flight status.

 During the accident investigation it was shown that the accident aircraft had a fatigue crack in the wing that had been missed on previous inspections. The crack propagated from the cutout in the spar for the main gear tire and spread across the narrow part of the spar over a long period of time. It was determined that this crack started at a stress riser caused by the manufacture’s machining practices when the wing planform was built in 1966.

 

Subsequently the entire T-38 fleet was grounded worldwide while every aircraft was inspected in the wheel well area by eddy current looking for cracks. As I recall at Sheppard they found two aircraft that were grounded for a long period of time awaiting parts. I have no idea how many aircraft were found with cracks worldwide, but there was a large backlog of orders for the T-38 wing that took a long time to fill. The rest of the fleet was back in the air in about ten days as the inspections and polishing of the suspect areas were completed.

 

I hope this fills in one of the many blanks in your data

Steve Clarke

T-38 Instructor Pilot a long time ago
in email 5th February 2008


 
15th January 1979
USAF
T-38     Mid-air collision. Crashed 30 nautical miles east of Sheppard      
OK OK  
15th January 1979
USAF
T-38          
OK OK  
29th January 1979
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14918 Reese AFB TX Ellsworth ACE jet ran out of fuel      
     
Monday 19th March 1979
USAF
T-38A-50 63-8158 Columbus AFB MS Crashed in woodland in Carroll County      
??
ejected
??
ejected
 
12th April 1979
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3704 Reese AFB TX FCF crash Hdy failure (cap left off)      
Capt Christianson    
30th August 1979
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14843 Williams AFB AZ George AFB CA      
     
Saturday 29th March 1980
15:45

USAF
T-38A-50 63-8169 436th TFTS
Holloman Air Force Bases, Alamorgordo, New Mexico
Engine failure on takeoff. Crashed west of Interstate 15 near Nellis Air Force Base
Las Vegas
     
Captain Ross Henne
ejected
Captain Joe H. Pucca
ejected
 
28th July 1980
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10398 Williams AFB AZ (pattern)        
     
8th October 1980
USAF
T-38A-65 66-4356 Williams AFB AZ (pattern)        
??
killed
??
killed
 
Tuesday 16th December 1980
also seen as 16th October

USAF
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8128 71st FTW Vance Air Force Base Crashed on approach to Vance AFB, OK USA      
??
injured
Lt. Jeffrey Combs
killed
 
25th January 1981
alos seen as 23rd

USAF
T-38A-60 Talon 65-10344 Vance Air Force Base Flew through large flock of birds during loop manoeuvre. Engine failure and fire. Crashed in residential area, Enid. No ground properties hit.      
IP Captain Frank Dressel
ejected
Student Pilot 2LT Julia Thie
ejected
 
Saturday 9th May 1981
15:18

USAF
Northrop T-38A-75 Talon Thunderbird 6
68-8131/6

Thunderbirds
Engine failure during a low approach. Crashed in a  Layton field south of the runway Hill Air Force Base, Ogden, Utah Capt. David L. "Nick" Hauck  deliberately remained in aircraft to avoid crashing into crowd killed  
15th May 1981
USAF
T-38A Talon 67-14948 82nd FTW
Williams AFB AZ
FCF flight. Crashed 49 miles east north east of Williams AFB , AZ USA ??    
26th May 1981
USAF
T-38A-40 61-0822   Birdstrike      
     
8th September 1981

USAF
Northrop T-38A-75 Talon 68-8182/1 Thunderbird 

Burke Lakefront Airport

Leaving Cleveland. engines ingested several seagulls on takeoff lost power 50 feet, caught fire, crash landed and skidded into Lake Erie,
 
   
1st. Lieut. Col. David L. Smith
Thunderbirds' commander
ejected
killed
 
Sergeant. Dwight  Roberts
31
Lexington
crew chief
ejected
minor arm and knee injuries
 
10th December 1981
USAF
Northrop T-38A-65 Talon 66-4376 560th Flying Training Squadron, Air Training Command, Randolph AFB, Texas Landing gear failed to extend on return to Randolph      
Major Patrick F. Nolen
ejected 10,000 feet and approximately 230 kts southeast of Randolph AFB
Captain Joe Dirago
ejected 10,000 feet and approximately 230 kts southeast of Randolph AFB
 
18th January 1982
USAF
Northrop T-38A Talon 68-8156/1

CAN ANYONE MATCH PILOT TO AIRCRAFT

During a practice over Range 65 the team was conducting a line abreast loop manoeuvre when  a malfunction in the lead plane caused mid-air collision "Diamond Crash," at Indian Springs

[training for an air show at Davis Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz, practicing a ''loop and tail'' maneuver flew into the desert ground]

Maj. Norm Lowry - commander/leader killed  

USAF
Northrop T-38A Talon 68-8175 Capt. Willie Mays - left wing killed  

USAF
Northrop T-38A Talon 68-8176 Captain Joseph "Peter" Peterson - right wing killed  

USAF
Northrop T-38A Talon 68-8184 Capt. Mark Melancon - slot killed  
Friday 19th March 1982
USAF
T-38   NASA Struck by lightning on his approach to Cleveland Hopkins Airport
Landed safely
     
Astronaut C. Gordon Fullerton    
2nd May 1982
USAF
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8160 14th FTW
Columbus AFB, MS USA
Control lost bail out    
Friday 14th January 1983
USAF
T-38A-60 65-10444 Vance Air Force Base crashed near residential area started a large grass fire .      
1st Lt. David Duncan
St. Pauls
ejected
1st Lt. H. J. Dillon
Welch, West Virginia
ejected
 
31st January 1983
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14847 Columbus AFB MS Solo flight      
     
Tuesday 5th April 1983
23:00

USAF
T-38A-85 Talon 70-1591 47th TFW
Laughlin AFB TX
Crashed at night  20 miles north of Del Rio, Texas USA      
(SP) 2nd Lt. Ross S. Hill
Smithfield, Utah
killed
(IP) 1st  Lt. Philip W. Robinson
killed
 
   
21st July 1983
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13250 Laughlin AFB TX        
     
   
Wednesday 21st March 1984
12:36

USAF
T-38A-65 Talon 66-4329 14th FTW
Columbus Air Force Base
Mid air collision with 66-4331. Crashed near Dime AL USA      
killed killed  
 

Following crews killed - who was in which aircraft?
1st Lt. Charles I. Bick, 25, Rushton, Virginia

1st Lt. John J. Kairis, 24, Brighton, Pa

2nd Lt. Green B. Williams, 27, Amherst, Massachusetts

 

21st March 1984
USAF
T-38A-65 Talon 66-4331 14th FTW
Columbus AFB MS
Mid air collision with 66-4329. Crashed near Dime AL USA killed    
ejected Captain Jefferson K. Dubel
27
Bradenton, Florida
ejected five miles north of Haleyville
 
Columbus AFB aircraft-related fatality. Two T-38s collided March 21, 1984. Three people died in that incident.
   
7th October 1984
13:00

USAF
T-38A-60 Talon 65-10397 71st FTW
Vance AFB OK USA
Returning from a flight to Holloman AFB. Crashed on approach to air base      
1st Lt. Todd DeHaan
24
Kalamazoo, Michigan
killed
2nd Lt. Kenneth J. Kubilins
23
Virginia Beach, Virginia
killed
 
   
Friday 4th January 1985
10:25 CST

USAF
T-38A-60
Talon
65-10368
80th Flying Training Wing
12th FTW
Sheppard AFB
Crashed near Wichita Falls  about one nautical mile south of Sheppard, TX USA
Caused by high sink rate in the final turn (a T-38 classic)
     
1Lt. Dale Alan Walters
25
Wheeling, Illinois
(IP)
Killed
Flt. Lt. Edric Lee Roy Redford
22
Chippenham, Wiltshire
RAF
killed
 
   
2nd April 1985

also seen as
5th April 1985

USAF
T-38A Talon 63-8125  
80th Flying Training Wing
12th FTW
Sheppard AFB
Birdstrike. Crashed near Wichita Falls about 2.5 nautical miles southwest of Sheppard TX USA      
 1Lt Gerald Green
(IP)
ejected
 LTJG Manfred Streibel
(German Navy)
ejected
 
   
18th May 1985
USAF
T-38A Talon  
80th Flying Training Wing
Sheppard Air Force base
SEE FEEDBACK BELOW      

FEEDBACK

I have some feedback on the 2 T-38 accidents at Sheppard AFB in 1985.

The accident on the 4th of January was caused by high sink rate in the final turn (a T-38 classic). The crew was 1lt Dale Walters (IP) and flt Edrich Radford (RAF).

The second accident took place on the 2nd of April. The crew was 1lt Gerald Green (IP) and ltjg Manfred Streibel (German Navy).

I am positive that no accident took place on the 18th of May 1985. I was a T-37 IP at Sheppard at the time of the accidents.

Keep up the good work!

Brgds

Gorm Christensen
RDAF ret.
in email 6th February 2011
update page 7th February 2011

 

17th January 1986
USAF
T-38A-85 Talon 70-1560 14 FTW in Columbus, MS Crashed on a training flight during acrobatics, a crack in the wing which caused the left wing to depart at 500 knots and 5 gs     Northrop
Student Pilot
ejected

[his parachute was wrapped around his arm and he had a streamer.  Because he had sport jump experience he was able to untangle the mess and get a good parachute]
IP Mike Hainsey
ejected
Northrop
 

I found your web site and enjoyed reading through it.  I noticed that you are missing the T-38 crash from 17 Jan 1986.  Tail number 1560, assigned to the 14 FTW in Columbus, MS, crashed on a training flight during acrobatics.  Both the instructor pilot (me) and the student survived, although the airplane was tumbling so bad when the student ejected   The cause of the crash was .

Mike Hainsey, Lt Col (ret), USAF

 

  Civil Air Patrol Aircrew Finds Crashed Air Force Trainer Planes
Civil Air Patrol aircrew was called to action early Wednesday afternoon when two Air Force trainer planes from Columbus Air Force Base collided in a wooded area of northeast Mississippi. All four pilots, two instructors and two student pilots, ejected from their T-6 "Texan II" trainer planes and parachuted to safety. An aircrew led by CAP pilot Lt. Col. Mike Hainsey found both crash sites late Wednesday afternoon near Shuqualak, Miss., about 30 miles south of Columbus. After coordinating with the Air Force response team on the ground, the aircrew was able to locate the second crash site in a heavily wooded area about a mile from the first downed aircraft. On Thursday morning, a ground team located the last mission ejection seat within the first hour of searching. Click here 07&month=11 for CAP story.
On November 28, 2007, our Civil Air Patrol Squadron was called to search for the wreckages of a crash of two T-6 Texan II trainer aircraft based at Columbus Air Force Base in Columbus, Mississippi. The aircraft had collided in mid-air near an auxilliary air strip near Shuqualak, Mississippi. We dispatched an air crew including Mike Hainsey as mission pilot, Trey Breckenridge as mission scanner, and me as mission observer and photographer. Our mission was to locate the aircraft and photograph the crash sites. When we arrived on this crash site, USAF ground personnel had already located it.

This is the best shot that I have of the first crashed aircraft. In this photo, you can clearly see the burned grass, the two collapsed trees, and the underside of the right wing. In the original size, the two blades of the aircraft's propeller are visible. 

 

   
28th February 1986
USAF
T-38A -55Talon 64-13296   47th FTW
Laughlin AFB TX
       
ejected ejected  
   
2nd April 1986
USAF
T-38A-70 Talon 67-14836 82nd FTW
Williams AFB AZ
Low Level CFIT [controlled flight into terrain]      
?? ??  
   
3rd July 1986
USAF
T-38A-70 67-14834 Reese AFB TX Landing      
SP ok IP (woman) fatal  
   
14th January  1987
TuAF
T-38A-45 62-3621
N5326
2-621
121 Sq / 2nd AFB
Cigli AB Turkey
Crashed at ÇİĞLİ / İZMİR     Northrop
IP
Şuayip AKGÜL
killed
student ok Northrop
   
Wednesday 22nd April 1987
USAF
T-38A-55 64-13169 479 TTW
Holloman AFB NM
midair with 68-8123      
     
Wednesday 22nd April 1987
USAF
T-38A-75 68-8123 479 TTW
Holloman AFB NM
64-13169      
     
 

Bob Pepper, chief of media relations at Holloman Air Force Base near Alamogordo, said a third crew member survived and was listed in stable condition at the 833rd Air Division Hospital at Holloman.

The dead fliers were identified as Capt. Ross A. Laturro and Capt. Paul J. Roberge, said
   
22nd May 1987
USAF
T-38A Talon 62-3639
ED
6512th TS
AFFTC
In collision  near Edwards with Cessna 206 N2520X during VFR in MOA. Crashed Tehachapi Mountains north of Los Angeles      
Major Michael J. Keane
38
killed
Lt. Gregory Hoglan
26
killed
 
   
22nd June 1988
USAF
AT-38B Talon 60-0569/HM 434th TFTS
479TTW
Crashed 5 miles north of Holloman AFB      
     
ejected    
   
8th August 1988
TuAF
T-38A-50 63-8233
N5580
2-233
121 Sq / 2nd AFB
Cigli AB Turkey
Crashed at BALIKESİR      Northrop
Mehmet TÜKENMEZ
killed
Naim AKYOL
killed
Northrop
   
18th April 1989
USAF
T-38A-60 Talon
AT-38B
65-10346/HM 479TTW
Holloman AFB NM
       
     
   
9th May 1989
TuAF
T-38 62-3727
2-727
121 Sq / 2nd AFB Crashed at ÇİĞLİ / İZMİR     Northrop
9th May 1989
USAF
T-38A-45 62-3627 Holloman AFB NM CHECK DETAILS      
     
   
21st May 1989
USAF
T-38A-50 Talon 63-8124 64th FTW
Reese AFB TX USA
Landed short of runway
damaged
     
OK OK  
   
5th June 1989
USAF
T-38A-55 Talon 64-13287 64th FTW
Reese AFB TX
Crashed on landing 2 miles south of Cannon AFB NM      
Captain David M. Brandt
Nashville, Tenn
killed
Captain kevin Carrara
Greta River
injured
 
   
21st May 1990
USAF
T-38A-60
AT-38B Talon
65-10341/HM 433TFTS,  479 TTW
Holloman AFB NM 433 TFTS
       
   
Monday 6th August 1990
USAF
T-38A-55 Talon 64-13273 47th FTW
Laughlin AFB TX
Making training approaches at Kelly AFB Midair with Cessna 172      
2nd Lt. James Kline
23
Fremont
ejected
1st Lt. Steven Periman
25
East Chesire, NY
ejected
 
   
22nd August 1990
USAF
T-38A-65 Talon 66-8401/RA 12nd FTW
Randolph AFB TX
Roswell Ind Air CE  ACE jet      
   
Monday 24th June 1991
08:45

USAF
T-38A-55 64-13238 88th FTS, 80th FTW
Sheppard AFB
Wichita Falls, Texas
Crashed about 300 yards north of ATC tower at Sheppard     Northrop

Italian NATO Instructor Pilot
Major Domenico
Antiono (Tony)  Orlando
33
killed
American Student Pilot
2nd Lt. Michael Higley
26
Big Horn, Wyoming
killed
Northrop
   
3rd September 1992
USAF
T-38A     crashed about 50 nautical miles southwest of Sheppard one killed
on OK
   
   
20th June 1993
USAF
T-38A-75 Talon 68-8095/SJ 34th ARS
[334th ??]
Seymour
       
??
ejected
??
ejected
 
   
6th July 1993
USAF
T-38A-85 Talon 70-1588 64th FTW
Reese AFB TX
Engine failure on takeoff?      
   
12th September 1993
USAF
T-38A-85 Talon 70-1587 71st FTW
Vance AFB OK
Engine failure on takeoff?      
Col Milton E. Branch Jr Capt Matthew W. Heuer  
   
31st May 1995
USAF
T-38A Talon 66-4352/EN
80th Flying Training Wing
Sheppard Air Force base
Routine training mission crashed into an apartment complex into the parking lot of the Amber Falls Crossing
Crashed four miles south of Sheppard Air Force Base

Gound injuries and fatalities

     
2d Lieut. James Varden
ejected treated for minor injuries
Capt. Marc Vantsant [Netherlands] ejected treated for minor injuries  
   
18th October 1995
USAF
AT-38B Talon 65-10370/CB 14th FTW        
   
22nd October 1997
10:00

USAF
T-38A Talon 62-3746/ED 412th TW Collided today with an F-16 fighter over Edwards Air Force Base in California and crashed in the Mojave Desert
F-16 landed safely on a dry lake bed at the desert base
     
Lieut. Col. William Nusz
ejected
did not survive
Flight Lieut. Leigh Alexander Fox
[on assignment from the Royal Air Force]
ejected
did not survive
 
The two crew were found several miles from the wreckage of the plane and that their parachutes had opened
   
24th February 1998
RoCAF
T-38A-50 3821
/68-8177
Eastern Command, ROCAF
14th TFS
During training, mechanical malfunction, and crashed into sea, near Ping Tung.      
Student pilot
First Lieutenant LIANG Zhi Hong
rescued
Instructor pilot
Lieutenant Colonel HUANG Ji Wang
killed
 
   
16th June 1999
USAF
T-38 Talon 64-13208/XL 87th FTS damaged      
   
13th December 1999
USAF
AT-38B Talon 64-13298/RA   435th FTS damaged      
13th December 1999
USAF
AT-38B Talon 65-10437/RA 435th FTS damaged      
   
Tuesday 13th J